Curse

pegasux · Sep 13, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

i got 2 shields today in about 25 runs so i am satisfied =). now what to do with the other shield =)
btw e/a's do it just fine =)

Aeon_Enceladus · Sep 13, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Pure genius, mate

Great job.

Is the run to the Warrior's Construct hard? Does seem a little hard with so much afflicted and just Dash and Dark Escape :/ Atm, for weapons, I'm using a Totem Axe and Earth Scroll..will that work as well as a Kephet's?

Also, do you think this build could solo Jayne Forestlight for her hammer Vera?

Thanks for your time

Ogel · Sep 13, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Oh. My. GOD.

My Assassin just got SO happy.

Evilsod · Sep 13, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Hehe i started on the Kaolins earlier today too. First kill got me a Domination Staff... not bad really. Decided to do it as E/A because of the more powerful Sliver.

The problem is i can't seem to repeat it all that well. Sliver Armour ALWAYS targets the Shiro'ken Elementalists first (someone said earlier they couldn't seem to hit it, the eles damage numbers are extremely high up so you couldn't see it). After that it always goes for the Afflicted Warriors/Rangers... I could stop the Rangers charging in by using a Kekphets instead of my Totem Axe, but the Sliver Armour seems to struggle to finish them off. Specially with Ritualist ressing everything.

I might need to use A/E though for the other bosses, too many mobs around them so Shadow Form would run out.

@Aeon, Jayne can indeed be soloed. Aftershock/Gale/Shock work fine. Can be done in the same run as the Scar Eater.

CalypsoX · Sep 13, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

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Originally Posted by Scott

@CalypsoX: how do you get to the necro construct alive? I die by passing the elementalist construct :/

Oh, I completely forgot about the ele one (and the ranger one too :P). In any case, the the order I usually do this is Ele, Necro, Mesmer, Warrior (pathing wise). Save the monk construct for very last since its the closest and also pretty easy.

1) The path you want to take is Monk (dont kill it yet, because its easy even with 60 dp), then after, turn left up the ramp toward the mesmer construct, then left again, and to the right to lead you to the ele construct (use shadow form to run past the 2 afflicted groups). Ele is the easiest since the enemies are stationary for whatever reason. The only thing is that you must have as little dp as possible as lightning touch goes through shadow form. Use dark escape also to halve the damage.

2) To get to the necro construct, run through the mesmer construct mob (with shadow form up) in the center floor, then up and to the left. You should see the necro construct, but there is a mob blocking your path. This is where the extra seconds in shadow form matter. Put it up, speed boost through that mob, then deaths charge to the construct. Two other mobs will then collapse on you, which will only add to your damage. This is rated second easiest since the mobs are quite spread out, so the chances of sliver armor hitting correctly are very good (hasn't failed once for me yet). Note, however, that if you fail to kill the construct after the 2 other mobs move in, then I doubt it'll be possible for you to try again the second time.

3) Next up is the Mesmer construct. I had a lot of trouble with this since sliver armor almost never targets the construct for some reason. Some things I found that helped are: instead of deaths charging in, use a speed boost to run up next to it, and also, try to approach the construct when it separates from its group, rather than going in when they're all bunched up. This one's basically a toss up. You basically have to keep trying until it hits the right one.

4) After the mesmer, go the warrior by going the same way towards the necro construct, but instead of going left, turn to the right down the long hallway. There should be quite a distance between you and the construct, and 2 mobs in the way. Once again, a longer shadow form helps. Speed boost toward the construct, then deaths charge. This one is easier than the mesmer because the warrior construct will be on top of you anyway because its melee. Rust is not necessary since the damage will significantly overpower its heal sig. Sometimes, sliver armor will target an afflicted first, but after it died, it targeted the construct next, and I was still able to take it down.

I hope that was (somewhat) helpful. If not, I'll post some screenshots to guide it along.

Evilsod · Sep 14, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

The Warrior Construct can easily be done with E/A if you go by hte same route Calypso said. Run past hte first group using Dark Escape, then use Shadow Form, then hit Deaths Charge to leap over the gap straight to him. Shadow Refuge works well because it can stop the afflicted soul explosions killing you.

So far i've had 3 Domination Staffs and 1 Prot Staff (only killed it twice though).

Farming the Mesmer Construct is much easier with E/A. Unlike the other Kaolins the need for a longer Shadow Form isn't there (except all 3 times its dropped i've had to run back after dieing). Sliver Armour tears any targets before the Construct apart and can usually finish off the Mesmer before if runs out.

Aeon_Enceladus · Sep 14, 2006, 05:46 AM // 05:46

But when playing an A/E, how is the Kaolin Blade run harder? (besides weaker Silver Armor)

Scott · Sep 14, 2006, 06:55 AM // 06:55

hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?

CalypsoX · Sep 14, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14

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Originally Posted by Aeon_Enceladus

But when playing an A/E, how is the Kaolin Blade run harder? (besides weaker Silver Armor)

It's not really. The difference is if sliver armor for some reason refuses to target the construct twice in a row, then the ele's more powerful version can kill those two faster and then the construct (potentially, haven't tried it yet) before it runs out. Since the construct is melee and always on you, I don't think this will happen. Personally, I like the longer shadow form as it allows me to pick up stuff and speed boost out without accumulating dp.

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Originally Posted by Scott

hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?

When going down the ramp toward the ele construct, hug the right wall as close as possible. You should barely avoid aggro. On the off chance you can't avoid them, back out to the ramp past the first group. Assuming an assassin primary, dash+dark escape lets you run past that group and straight to the construct (via death charge), and still gives you enough time for sliver armor to do its thing.

Aeon_Enceladus · Sep 14, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

For those of you interested, this build *might* be able to take Jayne Forestlight.

The problem is that Silver Armor doesnt target her often : / Hoping someone can find a way around that.

Make sure you get Shadow Form up before aggro, cause if they use Cry of Frustration, its gg.

Hope others have better luck with this

kielus · Sep 14, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.

A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together
E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss

do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming??

chessyang · Sep 14, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Desires,

/bow

Have to say is WOW..... thanks for the build. and the VIDEO!!! i'm still trying to figure it out.

Just a small, very tiny request.... Could you list the main skill in your original post? or copy and past this?

1 Shadown form (E)
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Sliver Armor
4 xxxxx
5 xxxxx
6 xxxxx
7 Dark escape
8 Dash

Desires · Sep 14, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielus

ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.

A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together
E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss

do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming??

Well I perfer assassin mainly cause I am one and it gives quite a bit more time to get to boss and postion yourself ect. With Ele (no first hand exp) but it would probably be better at killing higher def bosses like rangers for example which this build has a hard time with due to the higher elemantal armor. Though odly enough darkroot seems to have either very high earth or general magic def as he only takes 16 damage from each hit(keep in mind hes a sin)

Another point to make places with onis near by work VERY well with their fast attack and always double hit adds alot of dps.

pegasux · Sep 14, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

where are these constructs? are they the ones in the mission at sunjiang? if so how do you keep from having mehlo and other guy from dieing. thx

Aeon_Enceladus · Sep 14, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

@pegasusx: You can farm the constructs in Sunjiang Explorable (outside of Zin Ku Corridor)

Has anyone besides me tried Jayne yet? Her mob is huge, and seems like a perfect candidate..only problem is that silver armor rarely targets her

SirShadowrunner · Sep 14, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Nice clever build, and thx for sharing with us, very nice jesture, perfect timing to, I
have been using my Assassin heavily lately, I have good luck on necro and mesmer
bosses, but the monk and warrior bosses are a little tougher.
The Woespreader boss is cake, got two staffs this morning and then the anti-farm
message came-up, I killed the Sunreach boss twice but no shield yet, also killed Kaolin
and got his wand.

much thx for fun.....
-SirShadowrunner

pegasux · Sep 14, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

thx Aeon , i have killed jayne 2x so far but no vera. let her get to the outside of the group the aggro her. then as the group comes throw up your skills and she will be targeted. don't shadow step to her cause it won't work...at least not for me.

dejsav · Sep 14, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

there is a video or a guide for Sunreach farm please?

Evilsod · Sep 14, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48

So far i've had 1 Shield from Sunreach. 4 Kaolin Domination Staffs. 1 Kaolin Protection Staff. 1 Scar Eater.

The Ranger boss just doesn't seem possible with either, its armour is just too strong.

Elementalists Construct doesn't seem to like to die either. Might be because i usually go for it later on when i have dp so Mirror/Touch kill me

The necro is extremely easy. I'm not entirely sure why someone posted to say you can't kill it if the groups all move in, its the only time i've been able to. The groups are so tightly nit if the Construct wanders to the side nearest you you can Deaths Charge to it and get a pretty much guarantee a kill.

The Warrior Construct seems to have problems with dieing... i use Rust primarily for him. But either Sliver doesn't target him first or there just isn't enough agro to kill him.

Monk is extremely easy... shadow form up the ramp, wait till the group to the right is nearest him and bow lure the group to the left before Shadow Forming. Plenty of damage.

I've only killed Jayne 3 times but so far i've never had any problems. Its never targetted another enemy. So far thats only happened with Constructs and Sunreach.

Ic Zero · Sep 14, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

when farming sunreach i always seem to trigger trap and get cripple, bleeding then touch to death by wallows